__Z__

Anyone ever tried a set?




Overall width when in the upward position.

movieboy4fun

__Z__

Haven't seen it done with an LS yet but I have seen stock Ford 351 tube headers flipped forward facing. See Pic Below:



Now that's Hardcore!!

__Z__

Can you get some pics from the top? Maybe an overall width?

mazdaspeedmiata

flip them up
who needs a hood anyways

charchri4

Going around the front of the motor would probably work with no AC or PS but I don't know how you would ever get it under the engine cradle and steering. You would have to raise the car quite a bit to make that work.

WolfGT

And you would basically be wrapping the power steering rack with hot exhaust tube. And instead of the heat from the tubes being pulled out the back of the engine bay, they have to pass back by the engine to get out. Sounds like a major heat problem in a engine bay that already has it's own cooling issue without adding that.

With all that said, what do you think you will gain by doing this? If you are thinking turbo, there are better ways. If you just think it's cool, great, good luck, love to see it.

I just don't think there is enough room to pull it off without causing problems. That is a lot of heat to just try to poke through any space it will physically fit.

movieboy4fun

I agree with WolfGT that it would be a major addition of unwanted heat just seen it had been done so I posted the pic. I have also seen it done when a SBF is installed in a Mercedes. ( Friday Night Street Drags at local track)

charchri4 you are bang on with having to raise the car to 4x4 mode, as you can see in the pics your steering end links angle up from the Rack where the flipped exhaust links are dead parallel indicating he is at least at stock height with possibly 50 series rubber. Too High for this Guy!!

Dean0

charchri4

How's this?


LOL that was way too low and I moved the converters and raise the car in short order.

This is the way I ran it on the 225-45/15s


Current set up is about the same height but running 17x10s now.

movieboy4fun

charchri4

I had an 85 Tbird that I set up for ISMA Road Racing in 90. Relocated A-arm pickups, longer A arms, 850 in/lb springs, 1 5/16 sway bar, 3 link rear set up,yada yada yada. I had to drive up on 2" x 6" blocks just so I could change the oil with a 4" oil catch can. I understand your fight, LOL. A bit off subject, with being that low how does that affect your "Bump Steer", I had to lower my steering link ends close to an 1" to get things back in shape so it wasn't a handful to drive over every bump?

I will be going the 225 / 45 /15 route on this build so thanks for the pics, very cool.

Dean0

charchri4

Check out the vid at 1:15. Shes pretty low and no bump steer that I could ever tell.

https://youtu.be/uyJPsSga4QU?t=1m15s

jackie

Scissortails is working on one. See his build thread entitled "Turbo Ls1 na Miata build"

charchri4

LOL funny how that works. I thought the same thing!

__Z__

Well I am adding a turbo, so underhood heat is the least of my worries lol.

jackie

Have you considered rear mount. Look at the oilless one HbWiggins is building. He got over 500 hp with 12 lbs boost and was gonna turn it up to 16 lbs for even more power. Its a build thread on this site.

__Z__

No offense to anyone's work, but a remote turbo is extremely inefficient,(i did alot of research on them for a few of my other cars) I plan to run a blow through carb, while it'll require me to addadditonal hood space (which I have cleverly come up with a solution for). It will allow me to negate a intercooler for up to around 15psi.

crispy

I test fitted some truck manifolds that I had laying around last night. These are from a '09 avalanche 5.3. If I go this route, The flanges would be cut off and slightly re-directed, then v-bands would be welded to the ends. I have seen a lot of LS guys in my area running similar setups.

Lateralgeez

These are bbk shorties flipped I think. I tried to picture a turbo but it's just so tight up front. Well it mostly fits except for the downpipe. Rear exit is not possible. Maybe you could cut a tunnel out of the firewall and passenger frame rail.

sebz

Why just not run block hugger?

wallyman

Anyone notice how beat to hell those pipes are? Eek.

sebz

Ha ha ha

wallyman

I've heard of "crush bent" pipes before, but don't think that is what they meant.

Lateralgeez

Aren't they lovely? Should have swapped in the coils and raised it before street driving. Oh well. It's open headers now.

movieboy4fun

Notice also how floppy and melted the rubber boots on the rack end links. YIKES!!

wallyman

The heat keeps the grease flowing nicely in the joints!

Lateralgeez

Can confirm damage to steering rack, I think. 4 pump swaps - no pump noise, no assist, must be the rack. If you have de-powered or manual rack might be ok.
Also, as you can see, reduced ground clearance crushes pipes.

In summary, forward facing headers should be considered a temporary solution, if at all.