95 LS Budget build
#101
V8 Miata Fanatic
Nice work on the windshield frame. You saved a Miata from a sad life as a future rust bucket and are turning it into something far nicer than it could have every hoped for! Keep the updates coming...
#102
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Got my griffin radiator today
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gri-1-58201-xls
Mounts should be here next week, Sure I could fab something but these come with nice rubber insulators. I'll still have to do some fab work to mount the mounts though. I'm kind of concerned about placement with the sway bar, it just seems to be right in the way of everything.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gri-1-58201-xls
Mounts should be here next week, Sure I could fab something but these come with nice rubber insulators. I'll still have to do some fab work to mount the mounts though. I'm kind of concerned about placement with the sway bar, it just seems to be right in the way of everything.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-23-2015 at 10:49 AM.
#103
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
kind of on the fence if I want to try to fit the radiator under the core support or behind it. I'm worried about room for a fan and sway bar clearance, so I'm kind of leaning towards the forward mounting.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-23-2015 at 10:51 AM.
#104
V8 Miata Participant
Nice job Steve. For my build I actually cut the front header and replaced it with 2x2" angle iron. That might have been over kill but it's what I had on hand ;-)
By cutting the part that bumps in toward the engine I was able to get rid of the hood latch, move the rad almost 3" forward and an inch +/- down. I also had a rock solid mount for the top of the rad. I to used a Griffin but I had a 3" core built to Miata specs with the Miata mounts for install and fans. It was a tight fit but I used stock fans and she never overheated.
I'm not sure what you are using for a subframe but with the BF set up they move the sway forward a bit. The front mounting hole becomes the rear and the rear one is used to stabilize the extension to get to the new front hole. A piece of 1x1 angle is all they use so it should work fine for you as well. I will caution you of this though, if you go that route be sure to get the sway bar reinforcement kit to firm up the stock mount. Even in non V8 cars the stock mounts are known for ripping off the frame with an oversized bar.
By cutting the part that bumps in toward the engine I was able to get rid of the hood latch, move the rad almost 3" forward and an inch +/- down. I also had a rock solid mount for the top of the rad. I to used a Griffin but I had a 3" core built to Miata specs with the Miata mounts for install and fans. It was a tight fit but I used stock fans and she never overheated.
I'm not sure what you are using for a subframe but with the BF set up they move the sway forward a bit. The front mounting hole becomes the rear and the rear one is used to stabilize the extension to get to the new front hole. A piece of 1x1 angle is all they use so it should work fine for you as well. I will caution you of this though, if you go that route be sure to get the sway bar reinforcement kit to firm up the stock mount. Even in non V8 cars the stock mounts are known for ripping off the frame with an oversized bar.
#105
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Nice job Steve. For my build I actually cut the front header and replaced it with 2x2" angle iron. That might have been over kill but it's what I had on hand ;-)
By cutting the part that bumps in toward the engine I was able to get rid of the hood latch, move the rad almost 3" forward and an inch +/- down. I also had a rock solid mount for the top of the rad. I to used a Griffin but I had a 3" core built to Miata specs with the Miata mounts for install and fans. It was a tight fit but I used stock fans and she never overheated.
I'm not sure what you are using for a subframe but with the BF set up they move the sway forward a bit. The front mounting hole becomes the rear and the rear one is used to stabilize the extension to get to the new front hole. A piece of 1x1 angle is all they use so it should work fine for you as well. I will caution you of this though, if you go that route be sure to get the sway bar reinforcement kit to firm up the stock mount. Even in non V8 cars the stock mounts are known for ripping off the frame with an oversized bar.
By cutting the part that bumps in toward the engine I was able to get rid of the hood latch, move the rad almost 3" forward and an inch +/- down. I also had a rock solid mount for the top of the rad. I to used a Griffin but I had a 3" core built to Miata specs with the Miata mounts for install and fans. It was a tight fit but I used stock fans and she never overheated.
I'm not sure what you are using for a subframe but with the BF set up they move the sway forward a bit. The front mounting hole becomes the rear and the rear one is used to stabilize the extension to get to the new front hole. A piece of 1x1 angle is all they use so it should work fine for you as well. I will caution you of this though, if you go that route be sure to get the sway bar reinforcement kit to firm up the stock mount. Even in non V8 cars the stock mounts are known for ripping off the frame with an oversized bar.
Thanks.
#106
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Finished the seam welding in the engine bay around the strut towers this weekend. Also got the radiator all mounted up. I'm pretty happy with how it came out! Also got all my lizard skin stuff. 1 gallon of ceramic insulation, one gallon sound control, and the application kit with a spray gun and mixer.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-23-2015 at 10:54 AM.
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#107
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Well, today had its ups and downs. I welded some small support rods to the bottom of the radiator mounts to give it some more rigidity. Then I decided to do a test fit of the subframe and headers on my spare engine... here's where the downs come in.
The V8R kooks long tube headers DO NOT fit with the bossfrog subframe. Not even close at all. So I'm going to be selling the Boss frog swap kit and will purchase a V8R swap kit so I can use these beautiful headers. I've only got one picture, but both sides had the same fitment issue.
The V8R kooks long tube headers DO NOT fit with the bossfrog subframe. Not even close at all. So I'm going to be selling the Boss frog swap kit and will purchase a V8R swap kit so I can use these beautiful headers. I've only got one picture, but both sides had the same fitment issue.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-23-2015 at 10:55 AM.
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#110
V8 Miata Fanatic
If for some crazy reason you end up selling the headers instead of the subframe then there is a better than average chance I'd take them.
Doubtful, but just throwing it out there.
Doubtful, but just throwing it out there.
#111
Jim Stainer
And here I thought this stuff just happens to me! Sorry for the hassle and loss you are facing. You could keep the frame rails and trans mounts and just swap out the subframes.
Really nice welding you have going on there. I am envious at your skills in that department! Thanks again for documenting such a fine build here!
Really nice welding you have going on there. I am envious at your skills in that department! Thanks again for documenting such a fine build here!
#112
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
And here I thought this stuff just happens to me! Sorry for the hassle and loss you are facing. You could keep the frame rails and trans mounts and just swap out the subframes.
Really nice welding you have going on there. I am envious at your skills in that department! Thanks again for documenting such a fine build here!
Really nice welding you have going on there. I am envious at your skills in that department! Thanks again for documenting such a fine build here!
As far as the welding, I took a class in college and learned a little but not much. I purchased my little 135 110V welder about a year ago and have been through about 10 spools of wire doing different things. I'm running flux core for now as I'm not trying to make anything too pretty and I don't have the space for a large gas bottle. In my limited experience I'd say Practice, Prep, and patience are the biggest factors. If you lack any of the 3 you're going to get poor quality welds every time.
#113
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Finally got the V8R kit, motor mount heat shields will be here soon. they were out of stock. Now to re-do my tunnel/firewall metal.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-23-2015 at 10:56 AM.
#116
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Gonna go by those measurements you gave me a while back for the tunnel. then wait till I get a trans and stuff in the engine back finished (painted) before I put the subframe and engine in.
#118
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Got the NB cluster wired into the dash, had to lengthen 4-5 wires. I just depinned them from the NA harness and stuck the wires into the NB plugs.
#119
V8 Miata Follower
I'm not sure if your wiring posts make me more or less scared to dive in.
I have a Miata harness sitting on the garage floor right now in a pile. I keep walking past it like it doesn't exist, but I really need to jump on it.
I have a Miata harness sitting on the garage floor right now in a pile. I keep walking past it like it doesn't exist, but I really need to jump on it.
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#122
V8 Miata Protégé
Thread Starter
Meh, the Mazda harness is super simple compared to what I deal with at work (mostly high end German). So I wasn't to worried about it, but yes they do have a lot of splices and 't's.
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