95 LS Budget build
#27
V8 Miata Protégé
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Got my engine and started tearing it down today. Needless to say, I'm excited!
Stripped it down to short block.
Stripped it down to short block.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-22-2015 at 07:09 AM.
#28
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Started getting the heads cleaned up. Haven't started the porting yet but I'm going to do some port work and CC everything to make sure it's all even. They won't see a flow bench but I'm not doing any drastic changes... I think.... lol
cleaned up f body pan
Started investigating the block more to see how in depth I want to go. Bearings look good, it's got the LS2 style timing chain vs the smaller LS1 style. Measured the bores for roundness and they are all ok. No more than .0010 variance anywhere.
cleaned up f body pan
Started investigating the block more to see how in depth I want to go. Bearings look good, it's got the LS2 style timing chain vs the smaller LS1 style. Measured the bores for roundness and they are all ok. No more than .0010 variance anywhere.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-22-2015 at 07:15 AM.
#29
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Well, so much for budget. LOL
tore it down completely so that I can hot tank the block. And at that point, I've got the bearings out so I might as well put some new ones in. Ordered Clevite H STD size bearings for the rods and mains. The #1 cam bearing shows a good bit of copper so I'm going to replace those as well. Sadly I'll have to take the block to a machine shop for that though.
I also noticed some wear on the piston skirts. I wanted to replace rings no matter what ($80) and new pistons, stock size Sealed Power Hypereutectic, are only $230. That's only a $150 difference so I went ahead and ordered those too. I am going to be keeping the stock rods as they are they gen 4 (ls2) style with a floating wrist pin and are better than the previous gen stuff.
AS of now engine plan is
stock rods &bolts
Sealed power flat top Hypereutectic pistons
Clevite H bearings
New ls6 oil pump
New ls2 timing chain
Cam -- Still undecided
Appropriate springs/pushrods for cam
Morel 5315 lifters
All GM stock gaskets
Improved racing LS1 oil pan baffle
ported 799 heads shaved .010"
here's the cam bearing that showed the wear
tore it down completely so that I can hot tank the block. And at that point, I've got the bearings out so I might as well put some new ones in. Ordered Clevite H STD size bearings for the rods and mains. The #1 cam bearing shows a good bit of copper so I'm going to replace those as well. Sadly I'll have to take the block to a machine shop for that though.
I also noticed some wear on the piston skirts. I wanted to replace rings no matter what ($80) and new pistons, stock size Sealed Power Hypereutectic, are only $230. That's only a $150 difference so I went ahead and ordered those too. I am going to be keeping the stock rods as they are they gen 4 (ls2) style with a floating wrist pin and are better than the previous gen stuff.
AS of now engine plan is
stock rods &bolts
Sealed power flat top Hypereutectic pistons
Clevite H bearings
New ls6 oil pump
New ls2 timing chain
Cam -- Still undecided
Appropriate springs/pushrods for cam
Morel 5315 lifters
All GM stock gaskets
Improved racing LS1 oil pan baffle
ported 799 heads shaved .010"
here's the cam bearing that showed the wear
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-22-2015 at 07:26 AM.
#30
V8 Miata Protégé
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Got my pistons and bearings today. The pistons didn't come with rings. Damn. Oh well. Also bought some axles from a member on here. Lots of parts and pieces. Soon enough stuff will start getting put together instead of taken apart. lol
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-22-2015 at 07:28 AM.
#31
V8 Miata Protégé
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pressure washed the engine bay and cut out the firewall gussets today. Didn't get the reinforcements welded in though.
Side note- I'm kind of surprised that no one has anything to say? lol
Side note- I'm kind of surprised that no one has anything to say? lol
#33
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Cool to make some progress eh? I was doing my gusset cuts again tonight. I had done them "Martin style" as I'm doing a 5.0, but I prefer the way FM does it with the larger cuts and the "reinforcements". Will be welding mine on tomorrow. I don't really think they'll add much support as the metal they get welded to is the real thin stuff, but I guess they can't hurt and they look better and offer more clearance then Martin's way.
Anyways, enjoying your build. Oh, It's easier to work in the engine bay if your subframe is out, and you'll have to unbolt the pedals to get the rubber steering shaft grommet out (after you take the column out).
Cheers. Brad
Anyways, enjoying your build. Oh, It's easier to work in the engine bay if your subframe is out, and you'll have to unbolt the pedals to get the rubber steering shaft grommet out (after you take the column out).
Cheers. Brad
#34
V8 Miata Protégé
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Cool to make some progress eh? I was doing my gusset cuts again tonight. I had done them "Martin style" as I'm doing a 5.0, but I prefer the way FM does it with the larger cuts and the "reinforcements". Will be welding mine on tomorrow. I don't really think they'll add much support as the metal they get welded to is the real thin stuff, but I guess they can't hurt and they look better and offer more clearance then Martin's way.
Anyways, enjoying your build. Oh, It's easier to work in the engine bay if your subframe is out, and you'll have to unbolt the pedals to get the rubber steering shaft grommet out (after you take the column out).
Cheers. Brad
Anyways, enjoying your build. Oh, It's easier to work in the engine bay if your subframe is out, and you'll have to unbolt the pedals to get the rubber steering shaft grommet out (after you take the column out).
Cheers. Brad
I'd love to pull the subframe and have it on stands but I just don't have the room to do that. I need to keep it able to roll in and out of the garage. Thanks for the tip on the rubber piece.
#36
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So, I decided to make sure the axles fit the stock hubs since I thought they looked large.. well they are too big. So now I've got to figure out some hubs. I've emailed V8R and am awaiting a response. Hopefully I can purchase a set of hubs from them for a somewhat reasonable price.
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So, I decided to make sure the axles fit the stock hubs since I thought they looked large.. well they are too big. So now I've got to figure out some hubs. I've emailed V8R and am awaiting a response. Hopefully I can purchase a set of hubs from them for a somewhat reasonable price.
Can you replace theirs w/ your Miata outer CV w/ stock shaft?
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#39
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That, IMO would be pretty weak, and I don't have my stock CV axles anymore. Sold the. With the diff
Ahh, any idea how much he charges? This may be a good option but I'd need to confirm he broaches to the size of my axles.
Ahh, any idea how much he charges? This may be a good option but I'd need to confirm he broaches to the size of my axles.
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#43
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Got my engine block back from the machine shop today. Had it hot tanked, decked .005", and pressed the new cam bearings in. Piston rings also came in the mail so I'll get the bottom end assembled this week.
#45
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I will. I'm actually going to break it up into sections to make it easier to read and figure where money has went.
and, if you couldn't tell, it's no longer a budget themed car. LOL.
and, if you couldn't tell, it's no longer a budget themed car. LOL.
#46
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I was going to keep track of mine as well but it ended up becoming too painful.
+1 for the Florida builds! Seems we are all near the same build point in our projects.
+1 for the Florida builds! Seems we are all near the same build point in our projects.
#47
V8 Miata Protégé
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I'd love to have mine running and driving sometime this summer. But that's going to be tough. haha. We will see. Donations welcome!!
#49
Jim Stainer
It's really fun to see you guys go through this together. I was lucky enough to build mine at the same time as Pat (toysnake) and Shannon (sb5700) did theirs and it was super helpful to go through it with someone else even at a distance. For a while there Shannon and I called each other pretty near everyday to figure something out.
I'm excited about your builds and very thankful you are sharing your stories with us here. Go Florida!!!
I'm excited about your builds and very thankful you are sharing your stories with us here. Go Florida!!!
#50
V8 Miata Protégé
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Cam, oil pump, timing chain and dampener came yesterday. Will probably get the bottom end assembled this weekend/week.
Last edited by SupaDupaSteve; 08-22-2015 at 07:56 AM.