LS1 V8 Miata oil pans - the good the bad and the ugly
12-01-2014, 06:08 PM
#28
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Well, in a way he is right. The BF subframe does allow the F body pan and no TRANS TUNNEL mods, the firewall wings still need to be trimmed. Other than a little dimpling to be sure there would be no knocking from the bell housing bolts the firewall is untouched. Could you duplicate the BF design? Sure. Myself, I would rather buy one of theirs as my welding isn't up to structural standards.
12-01-2014, 08:34 PM
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Finished my build in 03 before swap kits. I laid out & built a K-frame that
used a stock F-body pan. Don't know how any swap kit K-frame is laid out other than to find in this thread that they require oil pan & firewall mods. So, am not sure how to answer.
12-02-2014, 10:27 AM
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Let's find out. The center of my steering rack is 3/8" above the center of the lower control arm pivot & 4" forward (toward radiator) of the outer face of the forward lower control arm pivot hub. What are these dimensions on a stock NB K-frame?
12-03-2014, 11:54 AM
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Looked @ the pics posted earlier in this thread & it looks like the related dimensions of the K-frame in those pics is approx 3/8" above center (same as mine) & approx 2.5"-2.75" (1.25"-1.5") less than mine. Close enough to be considered similar steering rack location (mine appears to position the engine further back, toward firewall). So, if this represents the stock NB location, can say that mine is designed w/ no fire wall mods & stock location. There are other dimensions that would confirm this. Have a$$umed that each design positions the wheel/tire relatively centrally in the wheel well.
These are the pics referenced.
These are the pics referenced.
12-06-2014, 02:26 AM
#33
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Did anyone actually try the kevko pan over the V8R pan? They have an option on all there pans to do various degree fittings, including straight forward (option #10). I am going to give this a try, and the guy is pretty close to me as well, which is nice. Should be interesting to find out.
Cheers
Nick
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02-13-2015, 12:38 PM
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Did anyone actually try the kevko pan over the V8R pan? They have an option on all there pans to do various degree fittings, including straight forward (option #10). I am going to give this a try, and the guy is pretty close to me as well, which is nice. Should be interesting to find out.
Cheers
Nick
Cheers
Nick
03-11-2015, 08:06 AM
#35
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Holley 302-2 LS Conversion pan
I noticed that some have said that the Holley pan will not work, and I am assuming that the pan tested at FM was the 302-1 which is over 2" deep at the front. How about the 302-2? The dimensions at the front of the pan seem to allow clearance, not sure about the depth near the second bolt hole. That might be the killer. Any opinions?
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03-11-2015, 10:26 AM
#36
Jim Stainer
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Great find Chris! That pan did not exist when I did my search and started this thread in 2013. It looks like it hit the market in early 2014 with the goal of more clearance. Anyone have any input?
06-14-2015, 08:13 AM
#37
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Here's a thought: Move the motor back enough so you can use the stock F-body pan. Obviously this requires mods to the firewall, but you already have to modify the firewall/tunnel. This also gives more clearance at the front for the sway bar and the fans, and slightly more clearance at the steering shaft for headers. And improved weight distribution.
If you already have the V8R subframe, I think you could accomplish the move with different motor mount plates. And bodywork skills.
Mike
If you already have the V8R subframe, I think you could accomplish the move with different motor mount plates. And bodywork skills.
Mike
06-17-2015, 07:34 PM
#38
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Disclosure: I don't know anything about the LS oil pans except they sure seem expensive.
I've attached a picture of an ad I received via email from Speedmaster that shows a special on a fabricated LS oil pan for $180. It looks like it is aluminum, looks pretty shallow on the forward end, and bears quite a bit of resemblance to those fancy, high dollar specialty pans. Makes me wonder if it could be modified to create an economical alternative?
Website for this place is Speedmaster and phone is 909-605-1123. No affiliation with these folks; I've just bought a couple items from them in the past so I get their emails.
I've attached a picture of an ad I received via email from Speedmaster that shows a special on a fabricated LS oil pan for $180. It looks like it is aluminum, looks pretty shallow on the forward end, and bears quite a bit of resemblance to those fancy, high dollar specialty pans. Makes me wonder if it could be modified to create an economical alternative?
Website for this place is Speedmaster and phone is 909-605-1123. No affiliation with these folks; I've just bought a couple items from them in the past so I get their emails.
06-18-2015, 07:50 AM
#39
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If that works, it would be a lot easier than moving the rack and the stabilizer bar. Let us know if it fits. I will probably be doing a build with my son in the future. It would be worth $180.
06-18-2015, 08:30 AM
#40
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Wow lots of options there and by far the best deal on a pan I have seen.
http://store.speedmaster79.com/c-193...rm=LS1 oil pan
http://store.speedmaster79.com/c-193...rm=LS1 oil pan
06-18-2015, 01:11 PM
#41
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I called Speedmaster to get some more information about this pan. I asked who actually builds the pan. The response was that they do, so I asked for more pictures of the baffles and dimensions of the front portion of the pan. The rep was kind, but said that there was no additional information available and he did not offer to send any additional pics. Huh.
No provisions for a dipstick? What's up with that?
I guess we won't know if this is an option until someone tries it. I may just order one up to check it out since my motor is on a stand. I could probably craigslist it if it doesn't fit right.
No provisions for a dipstick? What's up with that?
I guess we won't know if this is an option until someone tries it. I may just order one up to check it out since my motor is on a stand. I could probably craigslist it if it doesn't fit right.
06-18-2015, 02:37 PM
#42
Jim Stainer
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Chris as I recall the dipstick is not impacted by the pan at all.
Pretty weird that they don't have any measurements on them especially if they are really making the pan. Surely there is some engineering drawings or info somewhere on them. Did you ask what their return policy is on them?
Pretty weird that they don't have any measurements on them especially if they are really making the pan. Surely there is some engineering drawings or info somewhere on them. Did you ask what their return policy is on them?
06-18-2015, 03:05 PM
#43
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Crap. I am elbows deep in a German engine right now. I guess the kraut got to me.
I thought the lack of info was strange also. I didn't ask about a return policy, but I will verify when I place the order.
I thought the lack of info was strange also. I didn't ask about a return policy, but I will verify when I place the order.
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07-06-2015, 02:16 PM
#46
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Z-
I replied to your PM. The pan made it from my doorstep to the garage and then I left town for a week. It is still in it's box. I will update soon hopefully.
I replied to your PM. The pan made it from my doorstep to the garage and then I left town for a week. It is still in it's box. I will update soon hopefully.
07-07-2015, 11:33 AM
#48
V8 Miata Habitué
With that Moroso pan installed you could knock 0.2 second off your bragging claims for 1/4 mile performance!
All kidding aside, everything I have ever purchased from Moroso has been really nice quality.
All kidding aside, everything I have ever purchased from Moroso has been really nice quality.
07-07-2015, 12:39 PM
#49
I called speedmaster today, and the guy I talked to is going to have a pan pulled from stock and give me a call back, and him and I will go over the dimensions, so with any luck I can give you guys the dimensions of their pans by the end of the day.
07-07-2015, 01:00 PM
#50
The thin section of the pan is 1.75" from the back of the flange to the bottom of the pan, and 11" long.
Can anyone verify if this will work?
It basically has the same dimensions as the autokraft pan. Based on the pictures ive seen on the VR8 pan, it should work.
I'm going to go ahead and place an order.
Can anyone verify if this will work?
It basically has the same dimensions as the autokraft pan. Based on the pictures ive seen on the VR8 pan, it should work.
I'm going to go ahead and place an order.
